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Post by blazingbarrager on Jun 9, 2015 21:09:01 GMT
One of the things Dimps/Bandai likes to do is keep players in the dark about what they do in their patches that aren't considered promo or DLC. What would be helpful to all of us is if everyone could band together and find out any form of changes they have noticed after a patch. For instance:
Patch 1.07
Perfect Kamehameha got nerfed by having its invincibility frames removed. I'm not sure if its damage got lowered though.
Hyper Drain got buffed. It now steals 2 bars of ki and stamina instead of 1 bar.
"Super Saiyan Bargain Sale" and "Might As Well..." Z-Souls got nerfed; they no longer increase Stamina regen or, if I didn't fully notice, had they effect greatly decreased.
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Post by The Mad Titan on Jun 9, 2015 21:29:09 GMT
One of the things Dimps/Bandai likes to do is keep players in the dark about what they do in their patches that aren't considered promo or DLC. What would be helpful to all of us is if everyone could band together and find out any form of changes they have noticed after a patch. For instance: Patch 1.07 Perfect Kamehameha got nerfed by having its invincibility frames removed. I'm not sure if its damage got lowered though. Hyper Drain got buffed. It now steals 2 bars of ki and stamina instead of 1 bar. "Super Saiyan Bargain Sale" and "Might As Well..." Z-Souls got nerfed; they no longer increase Stamina regen or, if I didn't fully notice, had they effect greatly decreased. renamed the topic to patch notes |
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Post by blazingbarrager on Jun 9, 2015 22:56:02 GMT
One of the things Dimps/Bandai likes to do is keep players in the dark about what they do in their patches that aren't considered promo or DLC. What would be helpful to all of us is if everyone could band together and find out any form of changes they have noticed after a patch. For instance: Patch 1.07 Perfect Kamehameha got nerfed by having its invincibility frames removed. I'm not sure if its damage got lowered though. Hyper Drain got buffed. It now steals 2 bars of ki and stamina instead of 1 bar. "Super Saiyan Bargain Sale" and "Might As Well..." Z-Souls got nerfed; they no longer increase Stamina regen or, if I didn't fully notice, had they effect greatly decreased. renamed the topic to patch notes kk Thank you. |
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Post by Kainzorus Prime on Jun 10, 2015 20:01:04 GMT
Bargain Sale got the Ki burn buff though, it seems waaaaay slower than before.
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Post by Kainzorus Prime on Jun 10, 2015 21:12:28 GMT
Also seems that using ultimates now costs 3 and a half ki bar, rather than just 3. Or at least Perfect Kamehameha does. It also still retains the invincibility frames.
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Post by blazingbarrager on Jun 11, 2015 2:09:19 GMT
I heard that Evil Whirlwind lost its invincibility frames. Haven't tested this yet though.
Also I don't know if this is concrete, but either Golden Freeza's auto ki regen has a high value, or they reduced the drain for SSJ transformations. Could someone test out the forms without auto regen? Also something is off with Super Vegeta(2) because whenever I use an Ultimate skill I don't notice any sort of damage difference between SV2 and SSJ2. I was testing this with Warp Kamehameha BTW.
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Post by Gurlok on Jun 12, 2015 8:20:12 GMT
Also seems that using ultimates now costs 3 and a half ki bar, rather than just 3. Or at least Perfect Kamehameha does. It also still retains the invincibility frames. Nah, they removed almost all the invincibility frames from every ultimate, before you couldn't take any damage when using Perfect Kamehameha, Breack Cannon, and many more, what we now only have is a "no stagger" effect based on your stamina when charging ultimates (pretty much what we always had, minus the invincibility frames). Also, I don't see any increased cost for the ultimates O.o I heard that Evil Whirlwind lost its invincibility frames. Haven't tested this yet though. Also I don't know if this is concrete, but either Golden Freeza's auto ki regen has a high value, or they reduced the drain for SSJ transformations. Could someone test out the forms without auto regen? Also something is off with Super Vegeta(2) because whenever I use an Ultimate skill I don't notice any sort of damage difference between SV2 and SSJ2. I was testing this with Warp Kamehameha BTW. I can confirm that the Golden Freeza's Z-soul Ki regen is awesome, it as a very high value, it really helps mantain the SSJ2 forms, I just hope they will not nerf it in the future  . As for the SV2 form, as far I remember the bonus was really small, single digits like 3% nad 5% for ultimates with SV and SV2. The only real increase of damage I felt was by using SV2 with "I'm Super Vegeta" Z-Soul. EDIT: Shocking Death Ball, lost ALL the tracking ability, it just moves forward, then it stops and after some seconds explodes. I didn't really use it that much, but I remember at least a bit tracking and it was way more accurate, now you can't even hit the enemy! |
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Post by blazingbarrager on Jun 12, 2015 16:49:03 GMT
Yeah I did the tests with the SSJ2 forms and there hasn't been any changes, which sucks.
Also they nerfed Shocking Death Ball?! WTF!!!
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Post by Ditehi on Jun 13, 2015 3:51:40 GMT
Seems like Symphonic Destruction has less range and damage. I didn't notice a diff on Might as well..., but maybe it's just so strong that it doesn't matter . I like to use Get serious, would you? z-soul. Raises all stats during transformation. Would you use this over GFrieza's z-soul? |
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Post by Gurlok on Jun 13, 2015 9:30:20 GMT
Gravity Impact lost all its invincibility frames, now it's utterly useless, for heck sake, I don't give a "foot" about online, why the hell did they nerf the only move that really helped ki users when ganked during pq? The more they update the game, the more I wish they didn't; sigh, I would like to know how to edit the skills in order to revert the changes...
EDIT: Evil Whirlwind invincibility frames removed as well, DAMMIT, it was my favourite skill on my melee frizea race... ._.
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Post by Venris on Jun 13, 2015 9:53:13 GMT
Gravity Impact lost all its invincibility frames, now it's utterly useless, for heck sake, I don't give a "foot" about online, why the hell did they nerf the only move that really helped ki users when ganked during pq? The more they update the game, the more I wish they didn't; sigh, I would like to know how to edit the skills in order to revert the changes... EDIT: Evil Whirlwind invincibility frames remvoed as well, DAMMIT, it was my favourite skill on my melee frizea race... ._. Dammit Gravity Impact is one of my most used Supers. Does that mean it also no longer nullifies any Ki blast if timed right? Or are the invincibility frames not what "cancels out" Ki blast damage when you time it right? |
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Post by Gurlok on Jun 13, 2015 9:59:37 GMT
Dammit Gravity Impact is one of my most used Supers. Does that mean it also no longer nullifies any Ki blast if timed right? Or are the invincibility frames not what "cancels out" Ki blast damage when you time it right? The invincibility frames grant your CaC no stagger while performing the move, now after you take one hit, be it a simple punch or ki attack the move will be cancelled. It still cancel ki blast when you it them with the move, but as you can see it doesn't matter anymore a this point... |
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Post by Venris on Jun 13, 2015 10:07:24 GMT
Dammit Gravity Impact is one of my most used Supers. Does that mean it also no longer nullifies any Ki blast if timed right? Or are the invincibility frames not what "cancels out" Ki blast damage when you time it right? The invincibility frames grant your CaC no stagger while performing the move, now after you take one hit, be it a simple punch or ki attack the move will be cancelled. It still cancel ki blast when you it them with the move, but as you can see it doesn't matter anymore a this point... *insert world's largest sigh of disappointment here* This is punishment for clearing the first Bardock mission with Nappa's ultimate. |
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Post by Gurlok on Jun 13, 2015 10:12:34 GMT
*insert world's largest sigh of disappointment here* This is punishment for clearing the first Bardock mission with Nappa's ultimate. I feel you mate, I got really disappointed. Not only did they screw up several moves and z souls during every update, but they did nerf something that shouldn't have been in the first place. Where is the problem with that? It's not that you can spam GI to other players! you can only it in them in the face! It has no range, the damage is crappy, now it lost even it's only good reason; bah... As for the bardock mission, well who didn't? The majority of people cleared that mission by spamming Giant Storm or Ultra fighting Bomber... |
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Post by Venris on Jun 13, 2015 11:17:53 GMT
*insert world's largest sigh of disappointment here* This is punishment for clearing the first Bardock mission with Nappa's ultimate. I feel you mate, I got really disappointed. Not only did they screw up several moves and z souls during every update, but they did nerf something that shouldn't have been in the first place. Where is the problem with that? It's not that you can spam GI to other players! you can only it in them in the face! It has no range, the damage is crappy, now it lost even it's only good reason; bah... As for the bardock mission, well who didn't? The majority of people cleared that mission by spamming Giant Storm or Ultra fighting Bomber... I tried for a good 2 hours to murder my way to victory at level 55, Giant Stormed my way to victory at level 62 lol. |
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. As for the SV2 form, as far I remember the bonus was really small, single digits like 3% nad 5% for ultimates with SV and SV2. The only real increase of damage I felt was by using SV2 with "I'm Super Vegeta" Z-Soul.
