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Post by Mastaklo on Jun 24, 2015 22:42:34 GMT
As much as I'm against the idea of Mastaklo directly selling his mods (frankly I don't care since I never use any character replacer mods besides my own), I still respect him as the person who made a huge contribution in DBXV modding arena.I mean, he WAS the one who created this forum. Plus, I don't see him doing any harm to anyone by doing so. One should remember that those mods ARE his since he made them himself and he may do as he pleases with them, even if it's against the common idea that all mods should be free, because he owns the mods. He has full authority over the mods he made. If you don't like him doing that, it would be enough for you to protest by just not use his mods. You don't have to show an offensive attitude towards him. It's not like your DBXV will never work if you don't download his mods. Also, remember that he's done more good than bad here. He actually created this forum & did some tutorials for other modders to actually benefit & produce something, and then share them to everyone. I'm both a user and a modder. If it wasn't for Mastaklo's effort in making this forum & provides basic tutorial, I wouldn't even be dreaming of playing DBXV other than vanilla, and making a mod for it is out of the question. I can't speak for other modders in this community, but I'm pretty sure most of the best modders here started off with by learning tutorials by Mastaklo. To all the users, Remember those cell-shaded mods you get from Yusion? Those hair you got from Shadongo? Those Other Character Replacers you got from Xan & Heirtalent? All of them are obtained from this very site. If Mastaklo didn't start this forum, these wonderful mods would be non-existent. I know my post is pretty much TL;DR, But all I'm trying to say is, Show some respect to the man, at least. Even if you don't agree with his decisions, you don't have to be a douche and condemn him. P/S: Worst comes to worst, if Mastaklo decides to shut down this forum because some users are being immature, I'll pack up my stuff and upload them in Nexus since I had made some mods for Skyrim as well~ nah i wont shutdonw this i was just abit mad when i wrote it and because there are nice people like you on this forum as for now i simply wont release my mods at all maybe if i hade gotten support (not money wise) from the community i had decided differently and just release my mods to everyone ya know only be flamed for everyting i post realy upsets me and im losing the motivation on doing this stuff anymore |
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Post by ZReincarnation on Jun 24, 2015 22:54:07 GMT
As much as I'm against the idea of Mastaklo directly selling his mods (frankly I don't care since I never use any character replacer mods besides my own), I still respect him as the person who made a huge contribution in DBXV modding arena.I mean, he WAS the one who created this forum. Plus, I don't see him doing any harm to anyone by doing so. One should remember that those mods ARE his since he made them himself and he may do as he pleases with them, even if it's against the common idea that all mods should be free, because he owns the mods. He has full authority over the mods he made. If you don't like him doing that, it would be enough for you to protest by just not use his mods. You don't have to show an offensive attitude towards him. It's not like your DBXV will never work if you don't download his mods. Also, remember that he's done more good than bad here. He actually created this forum & did some tutorials for other modders to actually benefit & produce something, and then share them to everyone. I'm both a user and a modder. If it wasn't for Mastaklo's effort in making this forum & provides basic tutorial, I wouldn't even be dreaming of playing DBXV other than vanilla, and making a mod for it is out of the question. I can't speak for other modders in this community, but I'm pretty sure most of the best modders here started off with by learning tutorials by Mastaklo. To all the users, Remember those cell-shaded mods you get from Yusion? Those hair you got from Shadongo? Those Other Character Replacers you got from Xan & Heirtalent? All of them are obtained from this very site. If Mastaklo didn't start this forum, these wonderful mods would be non-existent. I know my post is pretty much TL;DR, But all I'm trying to say is, Show some respect to the man, at least. Even if you don't agree with his decisions, you don't have to be a douche and condemn him. P/S: Worst comes to worst, if Mastaklo decides to shut down this forum because some users are being immature, I'll pack up my stuff and upload them in Nexus since I had made some mods for Skyrim as well~ I personally don't mind if he wants to sell his mods. The problem, the way I see it, is that unless he can provide definite proof that he made ALL the assests in his mods from scratch, all character models, everything. It's completely illegal for him to sell his mods, even if you're hiding it behind "donations". I feel like this is mostly the issue at hand. That's not my point. All I'm trying to saying is, Mastaklo's done more good than bad overall. He doesn't deserve all those offensive attitude towards him just because he did one small blunder in his modding "career". This blunder doesn't make his contributions obsolete. All I see is that Most of the users who condemns his recent decisions are USERS WHO DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE JACK IN THIS COMMUNITY, WHO ONLY KNOWS HOW TO TAKE AND WHINE.
Still, as for the legal matters, If you are can completely prove that what he's doing is illegal, you're free to file a report to the related party or whatsoever and let him face any lawsuit or whatnot. That's would be the more mature way of handling things, rather than spouting offensive comments towards his decision~ |
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Post by Xan on Jun 24, 2015 22:55:59 GMT
nah i wont shutdonw this i was just abit mad when i wrote it and because there are nice people like you on this forum as for now i simply wont release my mods at all maybe if i hade gotten support (not money wise) from the community i had decided differently and just release my mods to everyone ya know only be flamed for everyting i post realy upsets me and im losing the motivation on doing this stuff anymore To be honest , I've always respected you for your contribution for this game, and your works, even if I'm not sharing the same opinion about your way to release your mods  . You've created my hobby for modding, and I have to thank you for that |
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Post by The Mad Titan on Jun 24, 2015 22:59:00 GMT
nah i wont shutdonw this i was just abit mad when i wrote it and because there are nice people like you on this forum as for now i simply wont release my mods at all maybe if i hade gotten support (not money wise) from the community i had decided differently and just release my mods to everyone ya know only be flamed for everyting i post realy upsets me and im losing the motivation on doing this stuff anymore To be honest , I've always respected you for your contribution for this game, and your works, even if I'm not sharing the same opinion about your way to release your mods . You've created my hobby for modding, and I have to thank you for that same here . |
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Post by WeedSter on Jun 24, 2015 22:59:25 GMT
I personally don't mind if he wants to sell his mods. The problem, the way I see it, is that unless he can provide definite proof that he made ALL the assests in his mods from scratch, all character models, everything. It's completely illegal for him to sell his mods, even if you're hiding it behind "donations". I feel like this is mostly the issue at hand. That's not my point. All I'm trying to saying is, Mastaklo's done more good than bad overall. He doesn't deserve all those offensive attitude towards him just because he did one small blunder in his modding "career". This blunder doesn't make his contributions obsolete. All I see is that Most of the users who condemns his recent decisions are USERS WHO DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE JACK IN THIS COMMUNITY, WHO ONLY KNOWS HOW TO TAKE AND WHINE.
Still, as for the legal matters, If you are can completely prove that what he's doing is illegal, you're free to file a report to the related party or whatsoever and let him face any lawsuit or whatnot. That's would be the more mature way of handling things, rather than spouting offensive comments towards his decision~ Oh no, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with all the hate being thrown around either. He's done good for the community, sadly there will always be people whining about something. For the legal matters, I'm not saying I was going to file any reports or anything. Simply stating that it would also be an issue, since selling property he doesn't technically own would come back to all of us, likely ending in a Cease & Desist notice on the forum. I'm not flaming or anything. Suppose I sounded like I was mad or anything. No, not at all. I'm completely neutral here. People shouldn't be flaming for any reason whatsoever pretty much. It's not how you keep a community going. |
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Post by The Mad Titan on Jun 24, 2015 22:59:40 GMT
I personally don't mind if he wants to sell his mods. The problem, the way I see it, is that unless he can provide definite proof that he made ALL the assests in his mods from scratch, all character models, everything. It's completely illegal for him to sell his mods, even if you're hiding it behind "donations". I feel like this is mostly the issue at hand.
they get my blood boiling too. they have no right to do this . |
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Post by ZReincarnation on Jun 24, 2015 23:16:47 GMT
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with all the hate being thrown around either. He's done good for the community, sadly there will always be people whining about something. For the legal matters, I'm not saying I was going to file any reports or anything. Simply stating that it would also be an issue, since selling property he doesn't technically own would come back to all of us, likely ending in a Cease & Desist notice on the forum. I'm not flaming or anything. Suppose I sounded like I was mad or anything. No, not at all. I'm completely neutral here. People shouldn't be flaming for any reason whatsoever pretty much. It's not how you keep a community going. It may come to that, The site would be shut down, all mods here will be lost, and so on~ but still, all those anger & protest posted by other users (not you) were NOT because of the matter that you have stated. They are angry 'coz they have to pay for mastaklo's mods. That's the one and only reason. They don't give jack about copyrights & legal terms or whatnot. They're just using those only to strengthen their arguments. Just like your typical politicians~ *grins* Still, regarding your concerns, it's mastaklo's decision, and he should know what's best for him~ |
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Post by WeedSter on Jun 24, 2015 23:21:58 GMT
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with all the hate being thrown around either. He's done good for the community, sadly there will always be people whining about something. For the legal matters, I'm not saying I was going to file any reports or anything. Simply stating that it would also be an issue, since selling property he doesn't technically own would come back to all of us, likely ending in a Cease & Desist notice on the forum. I'm not flaming or anything. Suppose I sounded like I was mad or anything. No, not at all. I'm completely neutral here. People shouldn't be flaming for any reason whatsoever pretty much. It's not how you keep a community going. It may come to that, The site would be shut down, all mods here will be lost, and so on~ but still, all those anger & protest posted by other users (not you) were NOT because of the matter that you have stated. They are angry 'coz they have to pay for mastaklo's mods. That's the one and only reason. They don't give jack about copyrights & legal terms or whatnot. They're just using those only to strengthen their arguments. Just like your typical politicians~ *grins* Still, regarding your concerns, it's mastaklo's decision, and he should know what's best for him~ Yeah, I was just voicing my concerns I guess. The whining/flaming people have no reason to be that angry. |
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Post by emirh2010 on Jun 25, 2015 9:25:19 GMT
wow u got bkocked just for saying that charging people for modd id low. i am currently paying domeone to do a mod for me on thus site so blocking me makes that difficult, please unblocl, thank you.
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Post by The Mad Titan on Jun 25, 2015 9:41:01 GMT
wow u got bkocked just for saying that charging people for modd id low. i am currently paying domeone to do a mod for me on thus site so blocking me makes that difficult, please unblocl, thank you. is that so ? or the way you used the words? you might want to read the rules section . |
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Post by emirh2010 on Jun 25, 2015 10:48:36 GMT
wow u got bkocked just for saying that charging people for modd id low. i am currently paying domeone to do a mod for me on thus site so blocking me makes that difficult, please unblocl, thank you. is that so ? or the way you used the words? you might want to read the rules section . i checked the forum rules and still cannot find andything wrong with what i have said, tho i will apologies since its none of my business anyway, Just if you can please unban my account i have a couple of people doing jobs for me and its alittle hard to keep in contact with them without having access to my account. |
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Post by The Mad Titan on Jun 25, 2015 11:16:08 GMT
is that so ? or the way you used the words? you might want to read the rules section . i checked the forum rules and still cannot find andything wrong with what i have said, tho i will apologies since its none of my business anyway, Just if you can please unban my account i have a couple of people doing jobs for me and its alittle hard to keep in contact with them without having access to my account. so this isnt you? ok as you whish i wont release any more mods at all I don't have a problem with that, also that way it remains legal ya greedy little rascal you  but seriously get off your high horse, I used to model high poly cars using nothing but a laptop and a touchpad lol. notice something about the language you used? also your ban expires on June 30th |
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Post by whalord on Jun 25, 2015 16:02:05 GMT
i checked the forum rules and still cannot find andything wrong with what i have said, tho i will apologies since its none of my business anyway, Just if you can please unban my account i have a couple of people doing jobs for me and its alittle hard to keep in contact with them without having access to my account. so this isnt you? I don't have a problem with that, also that way it remains legal ya greedy little rascal you but seriously get off your high horse, I used to model high poly cars using nothing but a laptop and a touchpad lol. notice something about the language you used? also your ban expires on June 30th What's wrong about his language? there's no swearing anywhere in the quote. greely little rascle, with an additional smiley? can it even be said more politely..? Lets examine this then: "Greedy little rascal" - so, he can't tell anyone that they're greedy? even if so, he added "little" afterwards, which is used to emphasize how unserious his manner is. "rascal" comes afterwards to soften it up even more. If that was not enough, he added a smiley after that. can you go softer? probably not. "Get off your high horse" - a metaphor. One hell of a common tongue phrase. Used everywhere. He seriously could have not criticized him in a softer manner. And although I am one that did nothing for the community like someone has said here earlier, I must point out how ridiculous the OP's posts are. His mods are paid > that startles the forum > he replies saying "maybe I should just shut down this forum" like an angry 11 year old who's breaking the game when he's unhappy > suddenly wild "thank you's" appear > he replies "oh well I was just mad when I wrote that" So what do we learn? someone who's apparently the high admin reached out his hand for the money, intended to shut off the forums after a community backlash, and suddenly everyone's feeding him thank you's so he'll calm down? He can do whatever with his mods and I'm glad there are people who can mod like that, but what is with this behaviour? why behave like a hot tempered kid? <<seriously. |
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Post by kesshi on Jun 25, 2015 16:31:44 GMT
But Mastalko, don't pay attention to the low lifes who all they want to do is complain, personally, I wish I could donate because your mods are amazing and I want to see more, (unfortunately I'm between jobs), but don't listen to them, because there is a bigger community who loves your mods and is glad to have you existing.
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Post by ZReincarnation on Jun 25, 2015 17:18:04 GMT
bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla blala bla bla bla bla.... although I am one that did nothing for the community like someone has said here earlier, bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla... ...And we should listen to your misguided anger because?... For being a person who doesn't contribute, you've lost all credibility in your argument. What's wrong about a human behaving like a human should? After taking lots of time & effort of making something to be shared for others to benefit and not being appreciated, anyone would get pissed. Let's take a few steps back, like before mastaklo actually made his mods 100% for sale. Sure, there were some donations required until he release something, but even if the donation is done by one or two individuals, after the mod is released, everyone can use it even if they don't spend a single cent on donation. Tell me, when you download stuff from this site, did you ever took the privilege of expressing gratitude by at least posting "Thank you for sharing" at the modders thread? seeing that you only have 3 posts so far, I actually doubt you ever done so. We're talking about a guy who MADE THIS FORUM & BASIC TUTORIALS here. Among all the users here, how many of us actually express our thanks to him for being responsible for the existence of this forum? We're looking at the bigger picture here. Try walking in his shoes and you'd understand why he's so frustrated. He even mentioned: maybe if i hade gotten support (not money wise) from the community i had decided differently and just release my mods to everyone ya know only be flamed for everyting i post realy upsets me and im losing the motivation on doing this stuff anymore If people like you would stop being so condescending, he actually would've released his mods for FREE. |
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. You've created my hobby for modding, and I have to thank you for that 
but seriously get off your high horse, I used to model high poly cars using nothing but a laptop and a touchpad lol.